The first of 4 Presidential debates took place today and I watched most of it at Pace University in New York City. It was a very pro-Obama crowd as one would expect at a university in New York. I am against both of these parties because neither of them are speaking any sense and that was on display at the debate. I may have been the only person in support of a third-party candidate at the event.

The two candidates argued over a variety of issues including the economy and foreign policy. Neither of them would say whether they were in support of the $700 billion bailout. They just danced around the question when all they needed to say was yes or no. The majority of Americans are against this bailout bill and obviously neither of these candidates have the balls to take a stance knowing that the bill is unpopular and if they do nothing the economy will collapse. The economy will collapse whether this bill gets passed or not but, it is a lot harder to spin the collapse if they take a concrete position. I appreciated the moderator’s attempts to get the candidates to provide a solid answer but it was to no avail–in the end, McCain gave a half-hearted “sure”.

While some people may say that there is a real difference between these two candidates, this debate clearly demonstrated that there is not. McCain started talking about earmarks and pork barrel spending that–according to Obama–totaled $21 billion dollars. Clearly that is chump change with the Iraq War and all these bailouts and welfare programs. McCain then accused Obama of some million dollar earmarks for things of no matter while Obama dissected McCain’s tax cuts for the rich.

On the surface that might seem like a difference but, it is not. Neither candidate is willing to actually cut any spending. McCain proposed a spending freeze except for the war, veterans benefits, and welfare programs. My question it, exactly what spending are you freezing? The two biggest parts of our budget is the war and welfare programs. A spending freeze on useless things is not going to make a difference. Obama, instead of asking McCain the question I would have, argued against a spending freeze and basically danced around the idea of changing his plans to account for this $700 billion bailout if it passes.

Yea, they are so different. They both want to ensure that we continue spending ourselves into oblivion and maintain troops in 130 countries. Totally different candidates for sure.

On the foreign policy front, both candidates agreed that Russia was the aggressor and evildoer in the conflict against Georgia. I’ve written about that topic and clearly showed that the real story is that Georgia attacked two independent territories with a lot of Russian citizens and Russia merely protected its own people. McCain even told a story where he said he was in that area and saw a poster with Putin’s picture and a caption that read, “He is our President”. Yea, that is correct. The people living in that area associate themselves with Russia and not Georgia. Georgia attacked innocent people and Russia was just protecting them. Granted, Russia should not have invaded Georgia but, by no means is Georgia innocent.

The debate over war in the middle east was also nonsensical. Somehow we are soon going to attack Pakistan and Iran for no reason at all. Both candidates are willing to extend war into any and every country in the region. It is on this issue that I agree with Obama the most. We should leave Iraq and we certainly should never have gone in. However, I would take our troops out of every country and neither candidate is willing to consider that.

And of course, both candidates are trying to show how the American people are in support of their view on the war. Apparently, both candidates have a bracelet with a deceased soldier’s name on it. I don’t want to belittle the duty of our armed forces but, it was of some hilarity to see that both candidates had this same card under their sleeves and used it at the same time. Different? Looks the same to me.

All in all, the debate was a big waste of time. These candidates are not different. They are going to continue on the same course we are on now. There is no change and there is no maverick. And if you didn’t know–and a lot of people apparently do not–there are four other candidates in the running: Barr, Baldwin, McKinney, and Nader. You might want to consider a second choice because McCain and Obama is really the same choice.